‘We have a way to save communities’: Cultural fire keepers share knowledge across colonial borders

First Nations experts attend first National Indigenous Fire Gathering in syilx homelands, joining counterparts from ‘Canada,’ ‘Australia’ and ‘U.S.’

Rachael Cavanagh (second from right), a Minjungbal woman from the Bundjalung/Yugambeh Nation, journeyed from ‘Australia’ to syilx homelands, where she spoke at the National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens
Rachael Cavanagh (second from right), a Minjungbal woman from the Bundjalung/Yugambeh Nation, journeyed from ‘Australia’ to syilx homelands, where she spoke at the National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens
Rachael Cavanagh (second from right), a Minjungbal woman from the Bundjalung/Yugambeh Nation, journeyed from ‘Australia’ to syilx homelands, where she spoke about the significance of cultural fire at the National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens

Sitting among a group of fellow Indigenous fire keepers in syilx homelands, Rachel Cavanagh shared knowledge about cultural burns where she is from in “Australia.”

“Ceremony,” she said, “has such a huge part to play in implementing fire.”

A Minjungbal woman from the Bundjalung/Yugambeh Nations, Cavanagh journeyed more than 12,000 kilometres to attend the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton). 

The summit brought together more than 100 Indigenous knowledge holders, leaders and experts from “Canada,” the “U.S.” and “Australia” between Sept. 23 to 25. 

As Cavanagh explained it, the practice of implementing cultural fires year-round is not just about taking care of the landscapes and ecosystems on her nation’s territories — what Indigenous peoples in her homeland call “Country.”

“It is about our medicines,” she said. “It is about the right type of smoke that is actually really healing for the body.

“We use it to welcome our babies onto Country. We use it to say goodbye to our Elders as they transition through. We use it for a manner of different things.”

Having Elders out on Country during cultural burns — whether they’re implementing fire themselves, or telling stories and dancing — is key.

“It’s that inter-generational transfer of knowledge,” she emphasized.

“It’s the sharing and story-telling that comes with practicing our culture and doing what we’re doing.”

As a member of the cultural fire movement, she said Indigenous fire practitioners are pushing for “Australian” governments to recognize them as “traditional custodians” of their territories.

“We still struggle to access our land,” she said.

Her message was far from unique to the Southern Hemisphere. It resonated with — and echoed — the experiences of many other Indigenous fire experts at the gathering. 

‘We have a way to save communities … with cultural burning’

September’s gathering in snpink’tn came roughly five years after an earlier meeting of Indigenous representatives from nations across “Canada.” 

At that earlier event, attendees had raised alarms about “how sick the land was” because its forests were no longer being maintained appropriately, leading to a thick over-growth of vegetation and woody debris.

They warned this was fuelling the severity of fires, and urged Western governments not to ignore the risk any longer.

“It was a really great gathering of like-minded people that are interested in cultural burning — how Indigenous people want to be able to look after the land again,” said Joe Gilchrist, an Indigenous fire keeper from the Skeetchestn Indian Band, a Secwépemc community west of “Kamloops.”

“Everything was causing pressure for us as Indigenous people to raise our voices and say, ‘We have a way to save communities … with cultural burning and Indigenous land stewardship.’”

Charles Kruger, a syilx and Sinixt technician with Ntityix Resources, monitors burning slash piles during wildfire mitigation work in syilx homelands in March. Photo by Aaron Hemens
Charles Kruger, a syilx and Sinixt technician with Ntityix Resources, monitors burning slash piles during wildfire mitigation work in syilx homelands in March. Photo by Aaron Hemens

Before settler-colonialism, Indigenous nations across the continent regularly conducted low-intensity controlled burns, carefully planned to maintain and replenish the health of the land and its ecosystems.

This ancient method of burning forests and grasslands — using what are today known as prescribed, controlled, cultural or traditional burns — encouraged particular plants and medicines to grow, while also preventing forest over-growth. 

Those practices limited the threat of devastating wildfires blazing out of control.

In the valleys, Secwépemc people conducted early burns in the spring, Gilchrist explained; in the fall, they repeated the practice in the mountains.

“Early spring was for our medicine down below in the grasslands,” he added, “and up high was for our higher elevation medicine areas, food for the animals to eat.”

But while Secwépemc people saw fire as a medicine, settlers gradually removed it from their ecosystems, suppressing it as a problem to be fought. 

Joe Gilchrist (second from right), vice-chair of the Thunderbird Collective’s steering committee, speaks at the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) in syilx homelands on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens
Joe Gilchrist (second from right), vice-chair of the Thunderbird Collective’s steering committee, speaks at the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) in syilx homelands on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens

Settlers favoured logging over maintaining forest health. As reactionary approaches to fighting wildfires became conventional, they led to more debris accumulating in the country’s forests — ironically, leading to even more devastating wildfires today.

Indigenous fire keepers see directly how bad today’s wildfires have become — “how bad the losses are, evacuations, all that kind of stuff,” said Gilchrist.

But they also see something more positive in their communities.

”How much people just love the land, the animals, the fish, the air we breathe, the water,” he said. “How fire is essential to all of that.”

‘Breaking down those challenges and barriers’

As they gathered in snpink’tn, Indigenous experts from around the world discussed ways they have been using fire to steward their homelands for generations.

They also highlighted bureaucratic barriers impeding their ability to do so.

The similarities between different First Nations’ approaches — and colonial resistance to them — were numerous.

“People are interested in collaborating and networking, to see what other people are doing,” said Charlene (Char) John, a member of the Tsal’alh First Nation, a St’at’imc community west of Lillooet. 

John chairs the Thunderbird Collective’s steering committee, which organized the three-day gathering.

One of the meeting’s goals, she said, was for Indigenous communities to share strategies to overcome the various longstanding barriers that exist to cultural burning.

“Then, the Thunderbird Collective can start working towards breaking down those challenges and barriers, by providing resources or tools, or linking people in networks,” she said.

Common issues highlighted by Indigenous participants at the gathering included regulatory and permitting challenges around conducting cultural burns. 

A growing number of First Nations communities want to be included in improving their landscapes through cultural burning, John said, “and how that creates safer environments from wildfire.”

It also requires removing barriers to Indigenous communities participating in responding to wildfires, too. 

To her, that means creating First Nations structures parallel to Western governments’ incident-command wildfire-fighting agencies, “to be able to initiate how the fire should be put out, to be able to have that say,” she added.

“Not only here, but many First Nations people wish to advance and wish to seek the rights and authority to assert themselves in [fire] scenarios.”

Hearing these concerns are crucial, as it helps provide the collective with a framework on “how to solve those issues, eventually, as we develop and regrow,” John noted.

But it’s not just about creating greater access to cultural burning for Indigenous communities — it’s about land stewardship. 

Or as John puts it, “seeing the resilience brought back.”

To achieve that, she described “four pillars” of the movement: knowledge-sharing, advocacy, land-based cultural practices, and sovereignty.

“These types of gatherings are going to help drive us to what we’re doing in our four pillars,” she said.

“As we develop, we can also grow and help fill those gaps that people are still seeing in the different systems.”

Supporting ‘practices that Indigenous people want in the fire world’

Before the Thunderbird Collective arose from a 2024 naming ceremony in Tk’emlúps (“Kamloops”), the group was called the National Indigenous Wildfire Management Working Group.

Last month’s gathering was the federally funded group’s first formal gathering under its new name.

“Our goal is to grow and develop,” she said, “and move beyond the federal funding.”

The Indigenous-led organization is “restoring the sacred relationship between fire, land and people,” she explained, “cultivating healthy landscapes, resilient communities and multigenerational learning.”

The steering committee consists of nine Indigenous people from different nations across “Canada” — many of whom are fire keepers and specialists who participate in and promote cultural burning around the world.

“That’s a big part of why they’re here,” John said, “to support cultural burning, to support all the practices that Indigenous people want in the fire world.”

Charlene (Char) John, chair of the Thunderbird Collective’s steering committee, speaks at the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) in syilx homelands on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens
Charlene (Char) John, chair of the Thunderbird Collective’s steering committee, speaks at the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) in syilx homelands on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens

One of those specialists is Gilchrist, who is the steering committee’s vice-chair. Gilchrist started fighting fires when he was just 15. 

He remembered the Thunderbird Collective’s first meeting years ago: a gathering of Indigenous people who wanted to look after the land again through cultural burning — and who all recognized “how sick the land is” from climate change and poor fire management.

“From there, we grew and grew,” he recalled. “We are growing as fast as we can.”

Gilchrist had led the Merritt Unit Fire Crew from 1991 to 1996, before finishing his firefighting career with B.C. Wildfire Service in the early 2010s.

“Now, I travel around and I spread the word about cultural burning and Indigenous land stewardship,” he said. 

That work has taken him to “Australia,” Fiji, Aotearoa (New Zealand), “Colombia” and United Nations meetings in Rome to promote cultural burning and land stewardship. In his travels, he met many Indigenous peoples who share and advocate for those same values.

Later this month, he’ll be taking his message to COP30 in Brazil, for the 2025 United Nations climate change conference.

“All over the world, that say the exact same thing as we do — about our love for the land, our love for our animals and our water,” he said.

“Fire was used … all around the globe.”

‘This work is a part of our assertion of sovereignty’

Keeping Indigenous fire traditions alive isn’t just about caring for the land and preventing out-of-control wildfires, however.

Co-ordinating with other communities on the issue is also helping assert Indigenous sovereignty, “upholding our jurisdiction, and practicing our rights,” said Justin Kane, chief of Ts’kw’aylaxw First Nation and a member of the Thunderbird Collective’s steering committee.

On the gathering’s first day, both regional and international Indigenous communities spoke of the different ways that they use fire to manage their territory — work that correlates to exercising title and sovereignty over their land.

In sməlqmíx (Similkameen)-syilx territory, Lauren Terbasket of the Lower Similkameen Indian Band (LSIB) said managing her people’s territories through fire and water diversion is a way of asserting “title and rights.”

“We believe that this work is a part of our assertion of sovereignty on the land,” she added. 

Continuing to use traditional and ancient management practices, such as cultural burns, is a way to prove her nation’s “ongoing use and occupation,” said Terbasket.

“It’s not just a matter of making partnerships, although that’s what we do — it is our way of asserting our title, our jurisdiction and our rights on our own lands.”

In 2018, LSIB conducted a prescribed burn in the Crater Creek area with the B.C. Wildfire Service and other government agencies. 

This area is located within the Ashnola Corridor, which was designated as an Indigenous Protected and Conserved Area in 2022. 

When the Crater Creek wildfire swept through the area in 2023, burning more than 40,000 hectares of land, Terbasket said it exhibited “high intensity burning right until it hit the edge of our traditional burned area.”

But many homes located on different reserves throughout the community were not touched by the fire, she recalled.

“We and our Elders believe that it’s because we continue to exercise our responsibility to the land,” she said.

LSIB is now in the middle of multi-year prescribed burn project to the akɬʕpas (Place of the Nighthawk) area, with phase one seeing 40 of 370 hectares treated last spring.

“It was really in response to habitat degradation — it was an area that was completely overgrown with sage brush,” Terbasket said. 

“Nothing else was growing there. Our traditional foods were no longer growing.”

Without fires ‘our homes become tinderboxes’

Similarly, Margo Robbins, of the Yurok Tribe in “California,” said her culture also depends on fire. 

Fire helps them in many ways, she explained — regularly burning the landscape helps foster medicines and traditional food sources, and also encourage the growth of plants used for basket-making.

“Before we started burning, you seldom see a deer on the reservation,” said Robbins, co-founder and executive director of the Cultural Fire Management Council.

She described her community’s young men leaving their reservation — sometimes risking heavy fines — to bring deer meat home to feed their families.

“Now,” Robbins said, “they just go to the places where we burn.”

Fire also impacts her community’s water quality, she said.

“When we burn and leave the charcoal on the landscape, it filters the water, making it more pure,” she explained.

“Also, it reduces the amount of vegetation on the land, creates more water flow to the creeks, which flows to the rivers.”

Most important, the community’s use of prescribed and cultural burning also helps prevent out-of-control wildfires.

“One of the few things that impact the spread and intensity of wildfire, is where the place has already been burned,” she said. 

“In the absence of fire, our homes become tinderboxes.”

Margo Robbins, the co-founder and executive director of the Cultural Fire Management Council, speaks at the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) in syilx homelands on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens
Margo Robbins, the co-founder and executive director of the Cultural Fire Management Council, speaks at the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) in syilx homelands on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens

‘Let’s take our place in the ecosystem’

It’s only been 12 years since the Yurok people reclaimed their right to do cultural burns. 

Robbins said her grandchildren have never known a world where their community did not manage fire on their territories.

“It’s really an ambition to be putting fire on the ground,” she explained, “to help create the enabling conditions for not only us to burn, but for others to burn also.”

She is part of several groups who meet together to influence state policy and guide legislation. 

In 2021, “California” created a prescribed fire liability fund “to support and expand private prescribed fires throughout the State,” budgeting US$20 million (C$28 million) for the initiative.

She believes it’s “our responsibility as humans” to help take care of the land with fire.

“We can’t just rely on lightning strikes to do it,” she said. “We are part of the ecosystem. We need to step up.”

She hopes more Indigenous Peoples learn to reconnect with traditions that “use fire safely” again. 

“Let’s take our place in the ecosystem to restore it to help.”

One strategy the community undertook was to get everyone involved was encouraging family burns.

Robbins explained this approach was the Yurok’s “traditional way of burning” — families “out burning around their homes and gathering places, at the right place at the right time,” she said.

They also offer “aspiring firefighter workshops” for “people that have never worked with fire that want to learn how,” she said.

“It’s my belief that everybody should have the right to use fire. We used to have that right. We used to do that, and our landscapes looked a lot better.”

‘We do it the way we want to do it’

Seven participants represented First Nations in “Australia” at the gathering, where they offered insight into their people’s relationship with fire and how they use it on their homelands.

“In different places, during certain climates, we’ll burn for plants, for animals,” said Deborah (Deb) Swan, a Ngarrindjeri mimini (woman).

“We never use fuel. To us, that’s another contamination to soil and the Earth. We use natural fibers and things, like fire sticks.”

Certain fire sticks are used depending on a burn’s objectives — for instance, what kind of plants or other resources a fire keeper is hoping will regenerate afterwards.

She noted her community comes across different government legislation who are “trying to take our knowledge” without actually respecting Indigenous peoples leading the work.

“Sometimes, we’re being put to the side,” she said. “Or they’re still using fuel, or still telling us when we can burn.

She believes the fire traditions must be maintained “to keep our women strong, and know that they’re supported to continue their practices.”

Cultural burns, she said, are still “very much a community burn.”

Several First Nations representatives from ‘Australia’ speak at the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) in syilx homelands on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens
Several First Nations representatives from ‘Australia’ speak at the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink’tn (Penticton) in syilx homelands on Sept. 23. Photo by Aaron Hemens

“The children are there,” she explained. “You can walk around barefeet if you want to.”

When it comes to cultural burning on Crown land, Cavanagh said “Australian” federal and state governments claim they want to include First Nations’ voices in fire legislation and create opportunities for them.

But that inclusion happens on settlers’ terms, “under their prescriptions,” she said — with government telling Indigenous peoples rules such as, “You must do this training” or “You have to wear a hat, you got to wear shoes, you got to do all these things.”

But cultural fire on Country, she said, is easy for her community when it’s on their private lands. 

“We do it the way we want to do it,” she said. “It is actually us leading and having a say on what that looks like. 

“That’s the important thing.”

Fire as a source of Indigenous healing

Cassandra McKechnie — who is Wiradjuri, Taepadthigi, Kulkagal, Saibailaig and Erubian — said the cultural fire space has become a source of healing for Indigenous peoples in “Australia.” 

“You see the impact it has on Country and everything that lives within Country, and that extends to us as well,” said McKechnie.

“I started to feel that in myself and in my spirit.”

Rhys Pacey, a Waagay cultural burn practitioner, said the beauty of cultural burning is also in all the relationships it builds — not just with the community and its children, but with the land itself.

That includes interacting with wildlife, trees and other plants, said the chief fire practitioner with Yurruungga Aboriginal Corporation.

Once a cultural fire is started, and its smoke begins to appear, “You just see the way everything reacts,” he explained. “Then you stop and you use all your senses. 

“You just immerse yourself. It’s repairing.”

Dean Thomas Kelly described himself as “a proud Gumbaynggirr custodian.” 

The chief executive officer of Yurruungga Aboriginal Corporation said gatherings of Indigenous peoples — like the one in snpink’tn last month — help him realize “we haven’t lost anything when we come together.”

“And I think that is the most beautiful journey I have been on.”

Author


Aaron Hemens, Local Journalism Initiative Reporter

Aaron Hemens is an award-winning photographer, journalist and visitor in unceded syilx Okanagan territory. He is Filipino on his mom’s side, and has both French and British roots on his dad’s. As a settler, he is committed to learning and unlearning in his role as Storyteller for the Okanagan region, and to accurately and respectfully tell stories of Indigenous Peoples throughout the area. Aaron’s work is supported in part with funding from the Local Journalism Initiative in partnership with The Discourse and APTN.

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